不满群体免疫政策、戴口罩是提防别人......听听这些英国学生的心里话丨海外连线
上期节目中，在英国布里斯托大学读研的中国留学生年糕，用视频的形式记录了英国政府宣布封锁政策以来，城市中的变化以及她的个人感悟。她还发出了灵魂拷问：店铺都关了，我什么时候才能再吃到心爱的小卷饼？
为了给大家带来更全面的信息，年糕也与三位硕士同学Mark、Bojona和Lottie讨论了英国目前的抗疫政策，一起来看看大家的观点吧！↓↓↓
来自法学院的Mark是英国人
他觉得政府的动作太慢了
应提早采取防疫措施
Q1
你对疫情消息有什么看法？
如何看待政府宣布的抗疫措施？
I don't think the measures were enough. I think we should learn from other countries that had it before us, or had it on a larger scale. Our strategy shouldn't have been herd immunity. It should have been prevention.
我觉得采取的措施还不够。我们应该从疫情爆发较早的国家或有过更大规模抗疫经验的国家学习。我们不该用群体免疫策略，应该是提前预防。
It's great that they want things to flatten the curve. But I don't think that's an option anymore, because of the measures we didn't take. So I think we should have had a lockdown quicker. I think it's longer than we should have been.
大家想让疫情曲线平缓下来是好事，但因为我们动作不够快，已经不可行了。我们应该更早封闭的。我们拖延的时间太久了。
不过让Mark安心的是
自己工作的地方有严格的距离限制
清洁工也频繁打扫各处
公司也给每个员工分发了消毒液
Q2
如何有效防范病毒？
My working place has a very strict social distancing. Every hour you see the cleaner walk past, and she will clean everything, all the time.
我工作的地方有很严格的距离限制，而且清洁工每小时都会打扫所有地方。
We also all have our own hand sanitizers. We give every single employee a big hand sanitizer, so we all have one on our desk.
每个员工的桌上都有一瓶消毒液。
对于大家外出是否要戴口罩
来自黑山的Bojana认为
没有生病的人戴口罩
是在提防别人
Q3
看到有人戴口罩你会感觉不舒服吗？
Apparently, mask is very useful when you're trying to prevent spreading something that you caught, but not actually preventing you catching anything.
如果你不希望传染给别人，戴口罩是有用的，但口罩对你自己的保护很有限。
So when I see someone wearing a mask, I'm just assuming that they're being precautious towards all of the other people.
我看到别人戴口罩，就认为他们在提防周围的人。
Bojana认为封锁令对她的生活没有大影响
她支持政府的措施
不过她认为封锁不能阻止病毒传播
只是防止民众短时间内挤兑医疗资源
Q4
封锁令对你有什么影响？
I have two very close friends here, so when Boris Johnson announced lockdown, he said, no more than two people can be seen in public walking together, that's kind of the only thing that changed.
我在这边有两个好朋友。鲍里斯宣布封闭令时，提到公共场所不得有两人以上同行，大概就这一点有改变吧。
The lockdown was expected. I was expecting it to be announced two or three days before when it was announced in London.
我预料到会有封闭，但是比我想象中的晚公布了两三天。
Because like India, that is something that has been proved in other countries as a beneficial measure, not to stop the virus, but to delay the health institutions being overwhelmed, which is, I think, a good idea.
封闭令在印度等国已经验证有效，不过封闭并不是彻底阻止病毒传播，而是防止医疗机构人满为患，我觉得这还挺好的。
Because it's better to have a certain amount of patients that you can actually provide health care to, rather than just let everyone get sick and then have overwhelmed institutions that cannot help people.
因为最好让患病人数控制在医疗机构可承受的范围内。如果患病的人太多，医疗机构也无能为力。
So it was expected. I honestly think that he will have to introduce even stricter measures, because I haven't seen on the streets things really changed.
我预料到政府会颁布封锁令，我其实还以为政策会更严格，因为我看大街上变化不太大。
在医学院就读的Lottie不害怕疫情
但她也担心自己万一感染
会传染给周围的人
Q5
你感到恐慌吗？
I don't feel panicked. I think some of my friends do, or some of my family members, I think, people who were more at risk.
我不恐慌，但我有朋友和家人很恐慌，容易感染的人会比较慌张。
It can be suppressed. Obviously I'm more worried. Or people deliver it to people. I'm worried about catching it and give it to our loved ones.
感染新冠肺炎初期可能没有症状，我也很担心，也担心人传人，怕自己感染上，再传染给身边亲近的人。
视频 年糕
文案 商桢
字幕 焦洁
制片 张曦
监制 柯荣谊
出品人 王浩