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Who is to blame? | 冬川豆

2016-08-14 硕帝 冬川豆种子不死


Democrat administrations have perished more innocent and productive lives world wide, historical records show. Not the opposite.


译:Yuriko; 校对:冬川豆


ho is to blame?

谁应当负责?

It depends on who's in the White House.

住在白宫里的人。

The thing is, that FDR and his WWII changed the whole world so dramatically that everything ensuing was either its ripple or an attempt to fix the damage it caused.

事实上,罗斯福和他主导的第二次世界大战对全世界的影响如此之巨大,以至于可以说:历史的后续发展如果不是它余波,就是对它所造成破坏的某种修补。


In a parallel universe where FDR had not succeeded, America would have still been on the track of Monroeism, rather than down the road to policing the world.

而在另一个罗斯福没有成功的平行宇宙世界,美利坚仍然会坚持门罗主义的道路,而不是担任世界警察的角色。

I think both Herbert Hoover the isolationist and the Dulles brothers the interventionists were coherent Republican statesmen guided by the same set of noble principles. Of course they had to adopt different distinct strategies accordingly before and after FDR opened the Pandora's box. FDR already annihilated three great world powers,  having created  power and order vacuums in various corners of the world, and what should Republicans like the Dulles brothers do given the situation? Seeing the world burn? They had to contain the damage by intervening, otherwise America would have been placed in the middle of a communist Atlantic and a communist Pacific.

我认为无论是孤立主义者胡佛还是干预主义者杜勒斯兄弟,都是内在逻辑一致的共和党政治家,他们被同样的高尚原则体系所指引。当然,他们需要在罗斯福打开潘多拉魔盒之前和之后采取迥异的策略。罗斯福已经毁灭了世界三大列强(英、德、日),在世界的不同地区留下了权力和秩序真空。在这种情况下,像杜勒斯兄弟这样的共和党人又能做什么呢?眼睁睁看着世界陷入火狱吗?他们必须通过干涉来遏制破坏。如果不这么做,美国将会发现:她处在一个红色大西洋和红色太平洋的包围中。


FDR was exactly a bull in a china shop. He messed things up, and the republicans had to clean up such a mess.

富兰克林·罗斯福就是“一头闯进瓷器店的公牛”。他把事情搞砸以后,共和党人只能负责收拾他的烂摊子。

The world is not flat, nations and races are not equal, just as people are not equal either.

世界不是平的,国家和种族并不平等,就像人与人之间也不是平等的。

Germany and Japan were not failed states like Iran, Guatemala or Cuba, instead, they were order providers and regional stablizers. WWII also crippled the British Empire, who maintained a largely peaceful and prosperous world order so meticulously and for such a long time with relatively very little effort and cost. 

德国和日本不是像伊朗、危地马拉或古巴这样的失败国家。恰恰相反,它们是秩序的输出者和地区稳定的维护者。第二次世界大战打瘸了大英帝国,而后者在此之前只用了较小的力气和成本,就长期且精巧地维持了一个大体上和平与繁荣的世界秩序。


No need to topple Mosaddegh at all were it not for FDR. Britain would have been taking care of Iran. And Vietnam would have been taken care of by France. And Syria also. FDR's carefully staged world destruction made room for soviet expansion and terrorism.

如果不是因为罗斯福,后世根本无需推翻摩萨台。伊朗会被大英妥善地看护,越南会被法国负责任地治理。叙利亚也是如此。富兰克林罗斯福巧妙布置的世界毁灭计划为苏联的扩张和恐怖主义提供了空间。

被中情局操纵政变推翻的伊朗首相摩萨台

America was not and is not very good at policing the world. This job is being done very costly and inefficiently. The problem is those who were good at it were knocked out by FDR.

美国过去和现在都不善于担任世界警察的角色,它担任这个角色所付出的成本巨大而低效。问题在于,擅长这一工作的各列强都被罗斯福打倒了。

Democrat administrations have perished more innocent and productive lives world wide, historical records show. Not the opposite.

历史记录告诉我们,民主党的执政只能为世界上更多无辜且富于生产创造力的人们带来灾难,而不是相反。

150,000 people died in Hiroshima alone. 80,000 in Nagasaki. Those victims were very hard working and productive people, not lunatics blowing passers by up while chanting "Allah Huakbar". More were killed during the firebombing raids in Tokyo. And what about Berlin? Who was responsible for the total destruction of Dresden, the gem of Central Europe and so many other European cities? And hundreds of thousands American soldiers, sailors, marines and pilots were annihilated in a war that the American people never wanted, a war that promoted nothing but FDR's personal ambition and private agenda, a war that rendered half the world to communism.

仅仅广岛的核爆就杀死了十五万人,长崎八万人。这些受害者是辛勤工作和创造价值的人,不是一边高喊“安拉胡阿克巴”一边炸死路人的疯子。更多的人在东京的燃烧弹轰炸中失去了生命。柏林的遭遇怎么样呢?谁该为“中欧明珠”德累斯顿和其他欧洲城市的毁灭负责?数十万的美国陆军、海军、空军、海军陆战队员在一场美国人并不想要的战争中失去了生命,一场只为了实现罗斯福个人野心和抱负的战争、一场将半个地球拱手让给共产主义的战争。

德累斯顿大轰炸后的废墟


长崎和平公园

What unforgivable crimes did the citizens of Prague and Budapest commit that they should live for decades as slaves of communist Russia? How would Immnuel Kant feel if he ever knew that his lifelong hometown Königsberg one day would be wiped out from the map?

布拉格和布达佩斯的市民犯了什么罪,以至于他们要在数十年共产苏维埃的控制下做牛做马?如果伊曼纽尔·康德知道他毕生的家乡柯尼斯堡有一天会从地图上被抹去,会作何感想①?


东普鲁士古城柯尼斯堡被苏联变成了“加里宁格勒”

注释:

1、刘仲敬《哥尼斯堡之殇:欧拉康德之乡邦,普鲁士之耶路撒冷》:哥尼斯堡中古名城,普鲁士公——勃兰登堡选帝侯——普鲁士王国——德意志第二帝国之故都,学术文章冠一时,波罗底海列国犹受其赐。维堡(芬兰故都,冬战为史达林窃取,今尚未归),塔林,里加诸镇,皆德人先建。各国宗教皆从路德新教,与内地斯拉夫异涂。各国语文,亦19世纪德国语言学家民族学家创造,否则必与万千口传方言同归于灭。无宗教语文则民族国家能否存在颇可怀疑。胡适老友刚和泰男爵即波罗地海德人,彼之同类世为当地文化中坚。帝俄重通欧情之客卿,日耳曼人大用。史达林欲绝民于欧,必反其道。本国德裔流中亚,东普鲁士德民铲平,老弱恋土者枪决,妇人多辱。历古相传之故都割入俄境。纳博科夫叹曰:普鲁士妇人!汝安知当产斜眼鞑靼子?汤因比强解曰:红军精锐已尽,此皆亚洲蛮子不知礼义所致。英大臣麦克米伦见巴尔干德侨掳送俄矿强劳,子孙送斯拉夫家庭教养,绝其文化种子,惊为惨绝,未知以俄本国标准,尚属宽厚也。吾民知此方解日侨何以感戴蒋公。今之学数学者,无不知欧拉有“哥尼斯堡七桥问题”,遍览地图,唯见俄城“加里宁格勒”。康德讲经欧拉论学之旧迹,今尚在否?


And don't forget the Shah of a secular Iran, and so many women and Jews living free under his rule. Who let the Mullahs take over Iran? Not the republicans. 

不要忘记那位世俗伊朗王国的统治者沙阿,在他的国度,女人和犹太人都是自由的。是谁让毛拉接管伊朗的?不是共和党人。


七十年代的伊朗大学校园

Talking about foreign policy, it is indeed something we can not let the democrats touch. Because some good people have to pay for it with life.

说到外交政策,这确实是一个不该让民主党人触碰的领域。因为他们的决定将会使许多好人付出生命的代价。

I was about to mention Wilson.

我想谈谈威尔逊总统。


伍德罗·威尔逊

He suffered from a stroke(strokes?) at that time. Even unable to read.

他在当时身患中风,甚至无法阅读。

His intervention policies were not coherent at all; He did not have a clear road map. He sent troops to Russia only to aide the Czech legion so they could evacuate from Russia. He did not intend to strangle the Soviet Union in its infancy, and had purposely prevented other imperial powers from doing so.

他的干预政策内在逻辑根本不一致。他没有一个清晰的路径和格局感。他派兵到俄国,只是为了捷克军团能从俄国撤退。他不仅没有想要扼死还在摇篮中的苏联,还刻意阻挠其它帝国主义列强这样做。


Japan once occupied Vladivostok and had 80,000 troops stationed there. The Japanese were about to take on the Bolshevik Russia, securing their interests in Manchuria(even taking Siberia). But Wilson ultimately pressured the Japanese into backing off. Because he thought that "Bolshvism is the chioce made by the Russian people"

日本曾经占领过海参崴,在那里有八万驻军。日本人本来将要挑战布尔什维克的俄国,保障他们在满洲的利益(甚至拿下西伯利亚)。然而威尔逊给日本施加压力让其撤退。因为他认为“布尔什维克是俄国人民自己的选择”。


苏俄为提防日本设置的傀儡国“远东共和国”

Another Democrat disastrous foreign policy failure.

又一个民主党外交政策的灾难性失败。

FDR was not just soft on the Soviet Union. He was fund of and supportive to it.

富兰克林·罗斯福对苏联不仅仅是宽容,他喜欢苏联,并且支持它。

罗斯福说他与斯大林“可以像兄弟般交谈”①

注释:

1、在丘吉尔的多卷本战争回忆录里提到过的另一段往事:1934年底,三巨头在德黑兰第一次会面时,会议第二天三人共进午餐,斯达林提出祝酒,预祝铲除“至少5万名,也许10万名德国军官团成员”。丘吉尔清楚地知道,战争初期苏联曾在卡廷(Katyn)集体枪决波兰军官、知识分子、政界人士和公职人员等2.2万人。丘吉尔对斯达林的祝酒词感到恶心,因此直言不讳地提出英国人从不容忍集体处决。当斯达林再三坚持“必须枪毙”5万人时,丘吉尔终于忍无可忍,他说:“我宁愿自己被拖出花园枪决,也不愿意我自己以及我的国家为此蒙羞。” 罗斯福插话道,或许可以少枪决一些人,例如只枪决4.9万。


He granted the Soviet Union diplomatic recognition in 1933 even if at the very moment the great famine in Ukraine was being widely reported.

他在1933年给予了苏联国家的承认,而就在当时,乌克兰的大饥荒正在被广泛报道。


斯大林一手制造的乌克兰大饥荒

And don't forget that FDR helped the soviets  cover up the Katyn massacre. How evil was that? He absolutely sided with Stalin and aided him so much at the price of American interests and innocent Polish, German, Japanese, Czech, Romanian, Estonian, Manchurian etc. lives.

也不要忘记罗斯福曾帮助苏联人掩盖了卡廷大屠杀。他必然是站在了斯大林的那一边帮助他,以美国人的利益作为代价、以无数无辜波兰人、德国人、日本人、捷克人、罗马尼亚人、爱沙尼亚人、满洲人等等的生命作为代价。


斯大林亲自签署了卡廷森林屠杀令

JFK was assassinated even before he could accomplish a thing or two. His courage to take on the soviets should be appreciated.

肯尼迪在刺杀之前甚至还没来得及完成一两件事。他敢于挑战苏联的勇气应当被认可。

The Cold War was in a sense the reaction against the outcome of WWII. Thanks to senator McCarthy. But far from successful. Long way to go.

冷战在某种意义上是对二战结局的反动。感谢麦卡锡参议员。但他还远远谈不上成功,还有很长的路要走。


麦卡锡参议员

My conclusion was positive, yes, Democrat administrations CAUSED the Soviet expansion. The pacific war was just a step toward the soviet expansion.

我的结论很清楚:没错,民主党的执政导致了苏联的扩张。太平洋战争使苏联离扩张的道路更近了一步。

Japan was the only imperial power in the Far East able to stop even finish off the soviets. What do you get from destroying Japan and its tributary states like Manchuria? Isn't that obvious? 

日本是远东唯一可以阻挡甚至消灭苏联的力量。消灭了日本和她的附属国满洲国,你会得到什么结局?这不是很明显吗?


苏军占领满洲

Like. What do you get from destroying Israel in the Middle East? 

就好比,你如果在中东消灭了以色列,会得到什么结局呢?



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