前美国驻华大使：美国反华言论过火，重走麦卡锡主义和希特勒老路

引言：美国前驻华大使马克斯•鲍克斯Max Baucus周一接受CGTN主持人刘欣采访时指出，美国政府中一些人对中国的攻击十分过火，让人联想起历史上的麦卡锡时代。上世纪50年代，美国参议院约瑟夫.麦卡锡曾通过煽动性的言论，四处散布红色恐慌，煽动公众对共产主义的仇恨，迫害共产党人。鲍克斯还将美国当下的对华舆论攻击与希特勒时期相比较，认为这些言论将挑起中美两国人民之间的相互敌视，导致双边关系进一步滑坡。

Anti-China rhetoric in the U.S. today is reminiscent of the McCarthy era and Hitler in 1930s Germany, says the former U.S. Ambassador to China, Max Baucus.

上世纪50年代，美国参议院约瑟夫.麦卡锡曾通过煽动性的言论，四处散布红色恐慌，煽动公众对共产主义的仇恨，迫害共产党人。

"I think the main point I'm trying to make, is somewhat reminiscent, nowhere close to that, yet, some are reminiscent of the McCarthy era, and some are reminiscent of Germany in the 1930s. That is, each person, Joe McCarthy, Adolf Hitler, made many, many statements based on nationalism," said Baucus.

博卡斯认为，虽然当下情形与麦卡锡时代和上世纪30年代的德国相去甚远，但现在美国针对中国的舆论攻击的确会让人联想到那两个时代，当时麦卡锡和希特勒 都发表了很多民族主义的言论。

In McCarthy's case, it's more anti-communism, and riling people up, making people believe things that really were not true.

以麦卡锡为例，他的言论更多的是反共，挑起人们对共产主义的仇视，让人们相信扭曲的事实。

Baucus said that the U.S. government today, and the White House, and some in Congress, are making statements against China, that are so over the top, so hypocritical, they are based, some of them, not on facts. Or they are based on facts but sheer demagogy. That's what McCarthy did in the 1950s, he was a proper demagogue.

博卡斯表示，在美国政府中，不管是在白宫还是国会，都有一些人对中国大放厥词。他们对中国的攻击过火而虚伪，而且很多言论并非基于事实，或者哪怕基于事实，基调也是带有煽动性的。这恰恰是麦卡锡在上世纪50年代所做的事，他就是一个十足的煽动分子。

If that continues like that, Baucus believes that there are going to have deep, deep problems between the U.S. and China. It's going to get worse. It's going to stir up American people against China unnecessarily, and it's going to stir up Chinese people against America unnecessarily. 

博卡斯认为，如果这种状况持续下去，中美之间将会出现更多的问题，双边关系也会变得更糟糕，极端言论将激起美国人民对中国的敌视，也将激起中国人民对美国的敌视，这些都毫无必要。

"I'm trying to say right-thinking people who want to talk about the facts, who care about relationships, speak up. Then we can have a discussion based on facts but not on demagogy."

他呼吁关切事实和中美关系的有识之士，勇敢地站出来发声，共同展开基于事实而非煽动目的的对话，发出自己的声音。

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