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伯恩斯大使接受《外交事务采访》播客的采访


最近,伯恩斯大使与《外交事务采访》播客团队进行了深入交谈,分享了当下在北京代表美国的感受,以及他对美中关系的看法。本次45分钟的播客节目发布于2022年10月26日。以下是引用大使的一些话。

“我们在努力表示对中国人民、对他们的文化和他们的历史的尊重、礼貌和兴趣。同时,我们对中国政府的批评十分直截了当和坦诚……”

“……拜登总统和布林肯国务卿在我们的对华政策中谈到的三部曲是投资、协同和竞争。我们必须重新投资我们的经济基础……然后有‘协同’……——加强我们的联盟——然后有‘竞争’……这意味着我们正在以一种非常具体的方式与中国竞争,为我们的公司和我们的劳动者创造一个公平的贸易和经济环境。当然,我们在技术上也在竞争。我们是一个民主政体,我们相信人的自由——我们很高兴能在全球进行这种讨论,因为我们相信这是美国的强项,是美国的比较优势。所以这三部曲是涵盖所有的,而且我相信这告诉我们,这是一场将要伴随我们一段时间的竞争。”

“......所以我们必须要找到方法处理这种竞争——就像拜登总统一直在说,就像布林肯国务卿在他上周左右的公开露面中一直在说的——以便我们避免冲突,并且我们学习如何以富有成效的方式处理这一关系。”

您可以在《外交事务》网站收听播客:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/podcasts/alone-beijing-view-embassy-nicholas-burns

或在美国驻华大使馆官网阅读本期播客完整文本:
https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/zh/ambassador-burns-on-the-foreign-affairs-interview-podcast/

Ambassador Burns on 'The Foreign Affairs Interview' Podcast

Recently, Ambassador Burns sat down with the team at 'The Foreign Affairs Interview' Podcast for an in-depth conversation, sharing what it is like to represent the United States in Beijing today and his perspectives on U.S.-China relations. The 45-minutes podcast was published on October 26, 2022. Here are some quotes from the Ambassador:

“We're trying to show respect, civility, interest in the Chinese people, in their culture and their history. And at the same time, we're being very straightforward and honest in criticisms of the government here…”

“...the trilogy that President Biden, Secretary Blinken have talked about in our China policy is invest, align, and compete. We have to reinvest in the foundation of our economy…And then you have the ‘align’...—strengthening our alliances—and then you have ‘compete…And that means that in a very specific way, we're competing with China to create a level playing field on trade and economics for our businesses and for our workers. We are competing, certainly, on technology. We're a democracy, we believe in human freedom—and we're happy to have that conversation globally, because we think it's a strong suit, and a comparative advantage of the United States. So this trilogy is all encompassing, and I think it informs a competition that's going to be with us for some time.’” 

“ …So we've got to find a way to manage that competition—as the President has been saying, President Biden, as Secretary Tony Blinken has been saying, just in the last week or so in his public appearances—so that we avoid conflict, and we learn to manage this relationship in a productive way.”

You can listen to the podcast on Foreign Affairs website:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/podcasts/alone-beijing-view-embassy-nicholas-burns

You can also read full transcript of the podcast on the U.S. Embassy Beijing website:
https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/ambassador-burns-on-the-foreign-affairs-interview-podcast/

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