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​关于宇宙起源:你相信大爆炸,还是上帝的创造?

向辉 随手传福音 2020-02-15

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Werner Gitt


Werner Gitt教授,1937年出生于东普鲁士的Raineck,在汉诺威工业大学应用科学和艺术学院学习,后在亚琛工业大学攻读工程学博士。从1971年至2002年,他一直担任德国联邦物理技术研究院信息技术部门的负责人。个人网站:wernergitt.de



问题1:Gitt 教授,虽然大爆炸理论很受欢迎,但你认为这种对世界起源的解释缺乏论据。


Gitt:是这样的。这个理论模型里,有一个经常提到的名词是所谓的“暗物质”。它旨在作为支持该模型的内容,却被证明更像是一种反驳。大爆炸假设的支持者自己也认识到,星系的形成不能用现存的宇宙质量来解释。为了避免与已知的自然规律发生冲突,假想的暗物质必须大得多,大十倍。 但这种必要的质量从未被观察到,这是一个纯粹的假设。如果没有这个假设的话,理论模型就会崩溃。 即使人们从未见过或测量过它,它仍然被命名为“暗物质”。不幸的是,它只是假设。 没有测量值来证实这个假设的合理性。 因此,大爆炸理论在科学上并不能稳定地站立着。


Question 1: Professor Gitt, although the Big Bang theory is popular, you think that this explanation of world’s origin lacks arguments.


Gitt: That's how it is. A frequently mentioned pillar of this theory is the so-called "dark matter". What was intended as a support proves to be more of a counterargument. Supporters of the big bang hypothesis themselves recognize that the formation of galaxies cannot be explained by the existing mass of the universe. To avoid conflict with known natural laws, an imaginary dark matter would have to be much larger, ten times larger. But this necessary mass has never been observed. It is a pure assumption, because otherwise the model will collapse. Even if it has never been seen or measured, it has nevertheless been given a name: dark matter. Unfortunately, it is simply postulated. No measured values make this assumption plausible. The Big Bang theory is therefore based on scientifically very shaky legs.



问题2: 让我们来看看星星。显然它们的数量是巨大的,没有人可以数算!


Gitt: 的确,星星对我们来说是不可数算的。

在恒星统计的背景下只有估计:一个选择天空拱顶的代表性可分界区域,并根据星星的数量来检查这个区域。然后对整个宇宙进行推断。通过这种方式,人们可以获得非常大的数字,大约是10的25次方。

目前已知的最快的计算机每秒执行大约100亿次计算(进一步的开发将导致更快的计算机)。如果这样的计算机只用于计算星星,它可以在第一秒计算100亿颗星,在第二秒计算200亿颗......你认为这台计算机需要多长时间工作才能数完星星?大约3000万年!这给人的印象是,造物主创造的恒星数量有多么巨大。

过去有很长时间并没有计算机,如今使用它也无法数算。所以我们可以认定: 人永远无法数算星星的数量。这就是为什么耶利米书33:22说:“像天上的星和海边的沙一样不可胜数”。


Question 2: Let's take a look at the stars. Obviously there are so many that nobody can count them!


Gitt: Indeed, the stars are not countable for us. There are only estimations in the context of the Stellar Statistics: One selects a representative delimitable area of the sky vault and examines this with regard to the number of stars. Then an extrapolation is carried out for the entire universe. In this way one arrives at the immensely large number of about ten to the power of 25 stars. The fastest computers known today perform about ten billion calculations per second (further development will lead to even faster computers). If such a computer were only used to count the stars, it could count 10 billion stars in the first second, and 20 billion in the second second... How long do you think this computer would have to work until it reached the estimated number of stars? Around 30 million years! This gives an impression of how huge the number of stars created by the Creator is. There is no computer for that long, and this time is not available to us humans either. So we can hold on: Man will never be able to count the stars. This is why Jeremiah 33:22 says: "As the host of heaven cannot be numbered and the sands of the sea cannot be measured".



问题3: 在大爆炸模型中可以找到这些星星吗?


Gitt:根据大爆炸模型,开始时根本没有恒星,但只有难以想象的密集压缩的物质和高能辐射。 自大爆炸以来,气体和辐射才均匀地分散开来。 在这个过程中形成星系和一个个的恒星,在物理上并不清晰。


Question 3: And where can these stars be found in the Big Bang model?


Gitt: According to the Big Bang model, there were no stars at all at the beginning, but only unimaginably densely compressed matter and high-energy radiation. Since the Big Bang, gas and radiation have spread evenly. The fact that galaxies and individual stars are to be formed in the process is not physically clear.


问题4: 但实际上我们的宇宙正在膨胀,这是适合大爆炸模型的。


Gitt:星系彼此远离,这种现象是可以测量的。为什么我们的宇宙应该僵化呢? 创造中的一切都在运动中。这不仅适合原子领域,而且所有生物都是动态的。为什么要将天体排除在外呢? 想想我们的行星系统。 每个行星都有自己的速度,围绕太阳运动 - 这个速度甚至不是恒定的。 因此,星系也有自己的旋转和在空间的运动。 然而,这还不是一个大爆炸的迹象。 它只是向我们展示了整个恒星世界的动态。


Question 4: But actually our universe is spreading. That fits a big bang.


Gitt: The galaxies move away from each other, and this effect can also be measured. Why should our universe be rigid? Everything in creation is in motion. This is true for the atomic realm, but all living things are also dynamic. Why should celestial bodies be excluded? Just think of our planetary system. Every single planet has its own speed with which it moves around the sun - and this speed is not even constant. So also the galaxies have their own rotation and their own movement in space. However, this is not yet an indication of a big bang. It merely shows us the dynamics of the entire star world.



问题5:有些神学家声称宇宙大爆炸在圣经的创造中占有一席之地。Gitt教授,你作为一名科学家: 这种寻求和谐的组合是否持久?


Gitt:大爆炸和创造是彼此对立的; 他们是如此地对立,以至于人们必须在他们之间作出决定。要么他坚持进化论,要么他相信圣经的创造记录。两者是完全不相容的。

根据圣经,地球,生命和整个宇宙都是在六天之内创造出来的。在上帝的诫命中(出埃及记20:9-10),在安息日的制度中重复了这个事实:“你一周可工作六天,但第七天是你的上帝耶和华的安息日。” 这条上帝颁布给以色列人的诫命,来自于上帝自己的创造行为:“因为耶和华用六天造了天、地、海和其中的万物,第七天便休息了,所以耶和华赐福这日,把它定为圣日。” 这是上帝的启示。我们不能对持更为重要的东西来反对这里的启示。

即便是出于世界上最好的愿望,这段经文也不允许建立大爆炸的体系。因此,上帝与大爆炸之间的联系在科学上和在圣经上都是不可能的,进化论和圣经记载之间的协调并没有产生令人满意的结果,这是一个错误。


Question 5: There are theologians who claim that the Big Bang has a place in the biblical account of creation. Professor Gitt, you are talking as a scientist: Is this harmony-seeking combination durable?


Gitt: The Big Bang and the act of creation are diametrically opposed to each other; they are so opposed that one has to decide between them. Either one adheres to evolution, or one believes the creation account of the Bible. But both are not compatible with each other at all. According to the Bible, the earth, life and the entire universe were created within six days. In the commandments of God, Exodus 20:9-10, this fact is repeated at the institution of the Sabbath: "Six days you shall work and do all your things; but on the seventh day ... you shall not do any work.” This order which God has given to men is derived from the order which God Himself kept: "For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth and the sea and all that is therein, and rested on the seventh day. This is the revelation of God. We cannot hold anything more important against it.

With the best will in the world, this text does not permit the installation of any big bang system. So the connection between God and the Big Bang is neither scientifically nor biblically possible. The harmonization between the doctrine of evolution and the biblical report does not lead to a satisfactory result. It is a mistake.



问题6:这里的对立是很大。例如,圣经讲的是一个年轻的宇宙。为什么科学家们计算的是数十亿年?


Gitt:在如今的测量数据的帮助下,人们可能计算出宇宙的当前膨胀率。如果假设这个速度是恒定的,并且只要一个人愿意往后推算到达某一点,那么这一点就是大爆炸的奇点。这种难以理解的推算导致了数十亿年的年龄。对我来说,这是纯粹的随意性。谁能告诉我这种“向后看”的计算是否允许到达这样的程度?

顺便说一句,天文学家在如何计算上并未达成一致。1995年12月4日至8日,在巴黎举行了一次国际天文大会,讨论最新的测量数据。他们的计算导致不同的年龄。因此,即使是从大爆炸理论出发的人之间也没有达成一致。报纸“Die Zeit”于1995年12月15日在“Das große Gehubbele um den Urknall”的标题下报道了一个强烈的争议:“在近100个讲座中,天文学家回顾了哈勃太空望远镜的最新图片和发现。但那些人预期天上的太平与宇宙的和谐是错误的:在研究人员转向最新的黑洞,神秘的类星体或新生的恒星之前,他们就陷入了宇宙学目前最大的争议中。”


Question 6: The contrasts are huge. For example, the Bible speaks of a young universe. Why do scientists expect millions and billions of years?


Gitt: With the help of today's measured values, it is possible to calculate the current rate of expansion of the universe. If one assumes this speed to be constant and calculates backwards for as long as one likes until one has arrived at a point, then one is at the time of the Big Bang. This incomprehensible procedure results in the much-cited billions of years. For me this is pure arbitrariness. Who is to tell me that this backward-looking calculation is permissible to such an extent?

Astronomers, by the way, do not agree on how to calculate. From 4 to 8 December 1995, an international astronomical congress was held in Paris to discuss the latest measurements. Their calculations led them to very different aging processes. So there is no agreement even among those who start from the Big Bang theory. The newspaper "Die Zeit" reported on 15.12.1995 under the heading "Das große Gehubbele um den Urknall" about a strong controversy: "In nearly 100 individual lectures the astronomers reviewed the latest pictures and discoveries of the Hubble space telescope. But those who expected heavenly peace and cosmic harmony were wrong: before the researchers turned to the newest black hole, enigmatic quasars, or newborn stars, they jumped into the greatest controversy that cosmology has to offer at the moment."


问题7:至少归功于目前的研究,大爆炸理论失去了可信度。Werner Gitt教授,你相信上帝的创造。 在圣经中,我们读到了一个年轻的宇宙。 科学观察也支持它......


Gitt:从纯粹的天文学角度来看,有一系列矛盾现象并不符合大爆炸的想法。以下是其中一些:

  •  有些星系必须比宇宙更古老。

  •  物理相关的实体有不同的红移。

  • 存在非常不同的大尺度结构,即巨大空隙旁边的极大星系团(超星系团),然而大爆炸理论所预期的是均匀的分布。


Question 7: Not least thanks to current research, the Big Bang theory has lost credibility. Prof. Werner Gitt, you believe in God's creation. In the Bible we read about a young universe. Scientific observations also speak for it...


Gitt: In purely astronomical terms, there is a long list of contradictions that do not fit the big bang idea. Here are just a few of them:

- There are galaxies that must be older than the universe can be.

- There are physically related entities with different redshifts.

- There are very different large-scale structures, namely extremely large clusters of galaxies (superclusters) next to huge voids. According to the Big Bang theory, an equal distribution is to be expected.



问题8:反之亦然,旧星系不适合年轻的创造。 特别是当涉及到宇宙的年龄,科学家们往往有不同的看法。


吉特:这取决于你的观点。 每项科学都需要先决条件,即所谓的基本假设。 如果有人预先假定进化来解释现实,他会自动进入巨大的时间范围。 如果有人以圣经记载为基础,他就会面对相对较小的时间范围。 没有人会在先决条件缺失的情况下,声称自己去工作。每个人都有一个起始位置,从那里他开始进行科学工作。 根据情况对观察事实进行分类。如果出现差异很大结果,那是因为不同的出发点决定了我们的思维。


Question 8: And vice versa old galaxies do not fit to the young creation. Especially when it comes to the age of the universe, the opinions of scientists are often far apart.


Gitt: That depends on your point of view. Every science needs prerequisites, so-called basic rates. If someone presupposes evolution to explain reality, he automatically comes into large time periods. If someone takes the biblical data as a basis, relatively small time periods result on the other hand. No one can claim to go to work without precondition.

Everyone has a starting position with which he begins to work scientifically. The facts are classified accordingly. The results differ so much because different starting points determine our thinking.


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附注

本书于2000年由德国比勒费尔德的CLV出版社发行,虽然有些数据显得陈旧,但其精髓还是值得我们思考的。

如今已82岁高龄的Werner Gitt教授将于2019年8月2日至4日在Bad Teinach-Zavelstein 进行演讲,并将于8月18日至20日Karlsbad-Langensteinbach进行演讲。



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