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以前在美国被白人占绝大多数的高科技程序员领域,目前已经被印度人和中国人占领,超过60%的美国程序员已经是来自于亚洲,那么曾经占领大多数地位的白人程序员是怎么评价中国人和印度人的呢,下面的文字是一个美国程序员对此的感受,亲爱的读者,看完之后,你怎么认为的呢?
Chinese h1bs are more entrepreneurial/risk taking than Indian counterparts. Indians value security over anything else and prefer older/stable companies.They are more relax. Long GC wait times probably a factor fostering their desire for long tenures.
【中国和印度的工作签证程序员们区分度很大,中国人更愿意尝试一些有风险的公司,而同时印度人更愿意呆在一些长期稳定的公司来先拿到绿卡】
Chinese doesn't seem to care much about GC, although their GC queue much shorter nowadays.Chinese tend to rush into flashy startups. Uber, Airbnb, Pinterest, Snap has significantly dominated by Chinese/Asian. Facebook used to be like that.
【中国人看上去并不是特别在乎绿卡,也可能因为她们要比印度人等待绿卡的时间短很多,中国人更倾向于快速进入一些热门的创业公司,以前的热门公司比如facebook就是这样被中国人占领的】
As a white, I find it much difficult to pass predominant Asians/Indian panels, although I don't apply Indian shops or desire to work there such as Netflix, Linkedin, Google Search and Ads.
【作为一个白人,我发现我很难进入一个被中国人和印度人占领的公司】
Once a company skewed to the either side, it's hard to be diversify again. White dudes will never come back!
【当一个公司被印度人或者中国人占领后,就很难再保持种族多样化,白人就再也不会回来了】
Once a company lost its lust, it becomes a target of indian invaders. Asian ICs and white managers are moving to next big thing. The titles and management positions are very important for Indians, so they take over the management first, the rest comes very easily. I've seen entire orgs Indianized witin six month, all started by hiring one Indian director, he hired few indian managers and so on.
【一旦一个公司进入了稳定期,这个公司就会被印度人进入占领,中国的程序员们和白人管理着会去寻找下一波科技的领导者,我曾经看见过一个公司的部门,在六个月内,从雇佣一个印度头开始,直到整个组织被印度人完全占领】
Indians have a desire to be managers and climb the corp latter. Asians are more like ICs. It's easier to get into promosing startups as ICs since manager positions hard to come by. An aspiring Indian may take a manager position in Netflix rather than joining Snap as IC. For indian's titles are more important It seems.
【印度人更喜欢变成管理者,而不是一个独立的程序员,印度人更喜欢或者更容易变成一个成熟公司的管理者而不是一个创业公司的独立程序员。】
这个老美说的很准啊,确实UAP中国人很多,其他公司一旦稳定和养老化后就要开始严重的印度化,印度化的速度也很快,狗现在有点要被撕开的感觉, 脸书家的中国人也没有以前那么多了,但狗脸都还没有失守,微软,ebay啥的已经完成了印度化了。
【感言】
硅谷一个传统族裔权力结构是:大量担任技术研发任务的中国工程师,往上是一群印度中层,再往上则是美国本地白人高管。现在,印度人已经用实际行动打破了“天花板瓶颈”。但中国工程师依然停留在“勤奋、靠谱、技术能力强”的研发人员层面,鲜有向管理层的突破。中国工程师私下对印度同事最大的抱怨,就是认为印度人“互相偏袒”。最被诟病的几大罪状,就是在公司入职时,印度面试官赤裸裸地偏袒印度候选人,甚至不惜放水;在工作中,印度同事又拉帮结派,喜欢口头上表功和讨好上司,个个都爱钻研晋升之道。
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